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Setting the Record Straight:The Canadian Healthcare System

Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:39 PM EST
health, obama, white-house, health-care, democrats, washington, health-care-reform, canadian-health-care
By NonPartisan_American
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I was asked by Jeff Coleman a student here the USA to post his recent speech based report for School that he will Present to in school tomorrow.

There is no greater issue that affects the world's population than healthcare. Healthcare is the single most common affair that affects every person in the world, but in unique and personal circumstances. To preserve a high standard of life and quality health, a society must establish a healthcare system that is just and balanced. In the process of designing a healthcare system for a society, one must realize due to the complicated personal nature of one's healthcare there has never been a perfectly designed system to deliver healthcare to a society.

In my opinion I would favor a system without any middlemen whether it be government or a private entity, rather a system based on patient to doctor payments. Thus, preventing unethical motivations of self interest whether it be monetary or political acclaim. With that said, I find the Canadian Healthcare system more favorable than our current American for-profit system. For the fact, the Canadian system does not unfairly discriminate based on personal economical and social class status compared to America's current healthcare system. The Canadian system is not unlike our current Medicaid system where as financial and policy oversight is shared between the federal government and provincial territories. Due to our recent political climate you may have heard various interpretations of Canada's healthcare system, without delving into lengthy detail, one of the most common key components to Canadian style healthcare opposition in the united States is reports of long waiting periods for medical attention. To understand the Canadian system you must comprehend the Canadian society, how the citizens view each other socially and how they prioritize each citizen recognizing that it requires every individual's contribution to each other to shape a pleasurable, civilized society for themselves, their future generations and fellow citizens to relish upon. Each providence has the majority control of policy regarding wait times and medical facilities, while the medical professionals are private and while the federal government primarily administers the financial obligations of the system. Some providences have adapted medical policy based on citizen feedback that is determined by social views of each citizen, while nearly every immediate medical emergency is prioritized and handled in a appropriate fashion comparable to the United States. While alternative or elective procedures are treated based on a severity scale. Canada is not unlike the US for rural areas, in both countries suffer from a shortage of medical professionals. Contrary to America's current system that emphasizes on high cost specialty care which in itself resulted in an ever increasing shortage of American primary physicians due to the high incentives of specialty care. The Canadian system highly targets preventative measures to ensure the everyday health of their citizens resulting in some providences to depreciate the value of specialty care, thus increasing waiting periods on selective, elective procedures.

In closing, I anticipate that many will strongly disagree with my opinion favoring the Canadian healthcare system, but I am confident that I have presented two different types of payment delivery systems attached to very similar healthcare systems. For they suffer similar short comings equally on the medical professional side of the spectrum and unequally at the point of access side of the spectrum. Despite the fact, that none of the current healthcare proposals of the past year for reforming the American healthcare system address the core and inherit, systemic flaws of our healthcare, I still believe that we could perfect upon the Canadian style system for far less the cost to maintain our defective system. In the end, there is only one ethical question a person needs to ask there self , "whether you want a society that is fair and just treating everyone equally or a society that allows a former president to skip his cardiologist appointment to be immediately seen the next day and hospitalized for heart surgery due to his financial and social status while millions suffer everyday"?

Source: Jeff Coleman & Researching consultant BCT

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NonPartisan_American

Comments are welcome but I asked that your respect that the Author is 17 & In High School. He wanted to share his voice about what he thinks, he hears what the right thinks, what the left thinks, what the talking heads think & the people who yelled the loudest thought but didn't know how to be heard himself.

While you may not agree with his views I ask that your Respect his Views & the Right to Freedom of Speech has & his journeys into Adult hood & find places to practice that right such as newsvine.

Any hateful comments towards the author of the article or towards other commentors or off Topic comments will be removed.

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Reply#1 - Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:45 PM EST
Lola-984242

Very nice report for a 17 year old.

Being an American and seeing what family members go thru here in the US in regards to health care, and who can and can not afford it. Then there's my family that lives in Canada who does receive excellent health care without the worry of premiums, cancellations, co-pays, and deductibles. What I observe is that both countries provide quality health care, but in the US that quality health care is not available to all and because of the expense, and/or insurance BS you're put through the stress that's compounded on top of your illness is horrible, yet quality health care is available to all in Canada, without the stress of trying to figure out how you're going to pay for all the treatment. Huge differences IMO. Myself along with my family members who live in the US would most certainly prefer the Canadian version of health care. My Canadian family members don't want any part of the US health care system, they think it's horrible. I agree.

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#1.1 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:25 AM EST
Nicey-1026620

I think his shot at ex-president Clinton is a bit much.

Consider how much Clinton gets done for the masses as an ex-president and then tell me he didn't deserve to have surgery right away.

Let's just look at how much money he was able to convince people to give on the Haiti issue alone...

Good article. But if you look into it, I'm sure you will find Canadian Leader/Financially well to do who get preferential treatment...or fly down to the US to get it.

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#1.2 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:35 AM EST
NonPartisan_American

Sorry I didn't respond sooner but I have been very busy plus I find that I need to take breaks from NV at random times, I agree that he was a little harsh with Clinton shot but he is only 17 & wanted that pow wow punch line of the article, He could have been more tasteful I am sure & as he matures I am sure he will but in the end it maybe what it need to actually touch one person or it might not but that is the power of writing. Sometimes it is the little things or highlighted areas that strike volumes with a core of readers. Without a doubt there is those who have the means in Canada who don't want to wait for Knee Surgery or what not to come to the US for it but the majority of the population is very pleased with their system but admit that it could be improved but would never want to trade systems with us.

Anyway Thanks for Comment :)

    #1.3 - Fri Mar 5, 2010 5:07 AM EST
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    Uthaclena

    Regarding the entire Health Care debate in the United States, I think that the initial proposition keeps getting 'lost in the sauce,' and I think that we all need to answer this in no uncertain terms or there is no hope at all of resolving it. It's pretty simple, black-or-white:

    Do you believe that health care is a right or a privilege?

    Forget what system to adopt or how much coverage should be provided, to start with. Depending on which you believe it is, you will go on to completely different strategies for addressing public health.

    I've talked to a number of our good neighbors from Canada, and they, like most European nations, have made up their minds. I don't think that we have really done that here in the States; we waffle, we spin, we fudge, we dance, and the entire issue of health care reflects this.

    Until we address this question and obtain a national consensus, health care reform isn't going anywhere.

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    Reply#2 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:30 AM EST
    NonPartisan_American

    I agree 100% & you are right the way everyone especially our Elected officals tap dance around to all issues & all ideas but never really address the question.

    For me I will say that it is a HUMAN RIGHT.. While it was not given to the United States in writing it can be implyed through the Government has a right to ensure protection over it's people & the right to live. Denying anyones right to live via medical treatment to me anyway seems just as bad as taking someones life. What no one seems to remember however when bringing up Rights vs Privliages is that we are in a very diiferent time now & our forfathers not only gave us rights in writing that could never be stripped from us, they also gave us the power to adapt for solutions of the modern age for they couldn't foresee the future. I don't believe they ever imagined the Nation having a problem with Health Care or that Health Care would ever soar to the prices they currently our now, back then Health Care like other services was traded. To our forefathers $10,000 is what $10,000,000 to us today. Sadly I feel it will require some epic fall of America before the system is ever reformed from the Ground up, I hope it won't take that but a few nations had to lay in ruins before they adopted to Health Care Reform, Such as the UK after WW2 on thought that If you can find the money to Kill people in a time of war you surely can find money to help people in need everyday.

    You made me think of Something, Maybe we our a few Generations off before the question will be answered or maybe the debate started to soon nobody is asking the question because health care debate started during a scary time in amid an economic sh!t storm & everyone so scared daily trying to get by riding the storm, Knowing that most of the Job Growth is in China & wondering if we will rebound & here comes the Government talking about health care reform, spending more Government money, taxing them to pay for it when they are just trying to make it.

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    #2.1 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:17 AM EST
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    TNLADY

    maybe the debate started to soon nobody is asking the question because health care debate started during a scary time in amid an economic sh!t storm & everyone so scared daily trying to get by riding the storm,

    IMHO, you've hit the nail on the head with this statement. This has been one of the most poorly timed pieces of legislation in my history. It is for this reason that I pray that both sides drop the issue. Let the dust settle and then start over.

    I also think that whatever "reform" is developed has to first be designed with a clear understanding of the American mindset. Americans have a very unique mindset about freedom of choice and government interference with our lives. We are not like other countries and our government is foolish to try and "make" us like other countries. That always ends up with an uprising. Whatever the path the reform takes, it has to have freedom of choice for every individual without punishments. When the leaders in congress (both sides) take an attitude of my way or the highway, the people will always take a negative attitude.

    BTW, great article from a 17 year old! Thanks for sharing. Gives me great hope for our future generations.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#3 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:57 AM EST
    daMamma

    You bring up some excellent points about the differences in the health care systems between the two countries. Speaking as an American living in Canada, I can compare first hand the merits of each.

    Most physicians on this (Canadian) side of the border are family care doctors. Yes, it can be hard to find a personal doctor for oneself and one's family. However there are loads of walk-in clinics everywhere and there are websites set up that one can look to, to see who is accepting new patients. (very cool imho)

    I think what folks in the states are missing is the fact that the government, whether national or provincial, does not get involved with any of the health care choices or decisions between patient and doctor. They (government) simply pay the bill and nothing more. People here are not limited to what sort of care, whom they see, or how much care they receive as they are in the states.

    When I lived in the states, I had to pay astronomical premiums for family health care. We were limited to specific doctors and types of care according to what the HMO or insurance company dictated we were allowed. Even emergency care could be denied if the insurance company decided it was not necessary. It was a constant battle. Us vs. Them. They are, after all, in business to make money. They are not in business to spend it. That is the whole point of for profit health care systems.

    In Canada, one does not experience these sorts of troubles. All care is covered. One can even find themselves surrounded by whole teams of specialists in various fields if need be, without having to fight for it. The amount of care, and quality of care is actually much better in Canada than it is in the States.

    Americans do not like change, especially a change as drastic as to go from a for profit system to a single payer system. Americans also hate to admit that in some things they actually are not the best. Canada's health care system may have some problems, but it is by far better than the broken system currently in place in the United States.

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    Reply#4 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:43 AM EST
    NonPartisan_American

    Well Thank You for your comment & I didn't write this but I will let the Young Man who did know what you said.. Anyway It is nice to have such positive give & in take from you & everyone I thank everyone for that much better then all the hate filled fear full comments flooding NV. Anyway I hope to see you post your experience on other articles..

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